1993 Bonneville intake manifold (area) leak
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RE: 1993 Bonneville intake manifold (area) leak
well I have a 1993 Bonneville with what seems to be antifreeze seeping from the area under where the thermostat housing is located. I do not have to add antifreeze , but I recently changed it. I have the green/yellow kind now. I do see slight trace of antifreeze and I am wondering how hard it is to remove and replace the intake gaskets. I also need to know if there is anything I should know about these engines. I have not taken any of these apart. I have worled on 350 ande 400 Pontiac engines( the real ones) and also the coorperate 350's too.Never on a 3.8 .
Do you think this seep will be okay to take on a 4 hour drive for thanksgiving? Otherwise...how much of a job is it to replace. I hear a part of the intake is plastic???? What about something to do with two plugs that need to be tapped and plugged? And the throttle body bolts too?
Pleas e Help ! Desperate in Long Island !!!
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RE: 1993 Bonneville intake manifold (area) leak
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Thanks Patrick...I understand this. I just need to know if it is a fairly easy job to do myself. I also would like to know if anyone might have instructions on how to perform the proceedure.
Jeff
Thanks Patrick...I understand this. I just need to know if it is a fairly easy job to do myself. I also would like to know if anyone might have instructions on how to perform the proceedure.
Jeff
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RE: 1993 Bonneville intake manifold (area) leak
hmmm..i do not have a link to a how-to. are you fairly mechanically inclined? so long as you are very careful to keep track of what comes from where, i dont think that it should be too terrible of a job, but i havent done one in a few years now.
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RE: 1993 Bonneville intake manifold (area) leak
Well in case anyone was interested, my "Seep" stopped. I put in the GM tablets from the parts department and drove it around for a day or two and the "pills" seemed to take care of the leak. I realize this is a temp fix, but it is working for now.
#8
RE: 1993 Bonneville intake manifold (area) leak
The lower intake manifold gaskets (between the intake manifold and the heads) are known to fail after several years. They deteriorate, warp and allow coolant to leak into the intake ports. You loose coolant, have vacuum leaks, driveability issues, check engine light, etc. New gaskets fix this (about $22.00 if you do it yourself). Check the pictures I took of the bad lower gaskets from my '95 3800.
There is also a problem with the upper intake manifold. The exhaust gas recirculation port goes from the lower intake manifold (aluminum) to the upper intake manifold (plastic). The problem is, over the years, the hot exhaust gasses gradually melt the plastic manifold right around the port (which is actually a short pipe pressed into the lower and extending up into the upper). On either side of the EGR pipe are two coolant passages. The now deformed plastic intake manifold allows coolant to get into the engine intake system. I have heard of instances where so much coolant gets into a cylinder that the engine hydro-locks. Very bad. There are two solutions to this problem that I know of: 1) Buy a new upper intake manifold and get 5-10-? years of service from it. (I've heard $150.00 for the upper manifold plus upper gaskets $25-30) 2) Modify your intake manifolds to create an insulating air gap between the EGR port and the upper manifold. There are plans out there to do this. (don't know where right now). This is what I will do soon.
There is also a problem with the upper intake manifold. The exhaust gas recirculation port goes from the lower intake manifold (aluminum) to the upper intake manifold (plastic). The problem is, over the years, the hot exhaust gasses gradually melt the plastic manifold right around the port (which is actually a short pipe pressed into the lower and extending up into the upper). On either side of the EGR pipe are two coolant passages. The now deformed plastic intake manifold allows coolant to get into the engine intake system. I have heard of instances where so much coolant gets into a cylinder that the engine hydro-locks. Very bad. There are two solutions to this problem that I know of: 1) Buy a new upper intake manifold and get 5-10-? years of service from it. (I've heard $150.00 for the upper manifold plus upper gaskets $25-30) 2) Modify your intake manifolds to create an insulating air gap between the EGR port and the upper manifold. There are plans out there to do this. (don't know where right now). This is what I will do soon.
Hope this helps.
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RE: 1993 Bonneville intake manifold (area) leak
HI GUYS,I HAVE A 1996 BONNEVILLE SE 3.8L V6 AND I GOT COOLANT INTO CYLINDERS ,1,3,2,4 AND I NEED HELP .IS IT THE HEAD GASKET OR INTAKE GASKET?NO COOLANT INTO BOTTOM END .PLEASE HELP /
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